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# She Was Escorted Out for Reading a Book From Their Library | Bonnie Wallace Ep. 009

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[00:00:00] Listen, Satan is after the children.
[00:00:02] He's after the family. And the first way
[00:00:05] to decapitate [music] the dad and get
[00:00:08] the dad out of the picture is what he's
[00:00:10] been has been useful for him. Our
[00:00:13] [music] schools are broken. They're just
[00:00:14] broken in so many ways. And a lot of the
[00:00:19] people in the school, they think they're
[00:00:20] doing good.
[00:00:21] &gt;&gt; From what I understand, you've [music]
[00:00:23] working with Remnant Law.
[00:00:25] &gt;&gt; I am. and you have filed a lawsuit
[00:00:29] against the [music] school district. Is
[00:00:30] that accurate?
[00:00:31] &gt;&gt; Yes. I was very hesitant to do so
[00:00:33] because um I'm a [music] conservative.
[00:00:36] Conservative people don't go out and sue
[00:00:37] people, right? I think we need to
[00:00:39] re-evaluate [music]
[00:00:40] our playlist. The Democrats use lawfare
[00:00:43] against us [music] and it's it's pretty
[00:00:46] effective. God does not want this stuff
[00:00:48] accessible to children. We have to stand
[00:00:51] and we have [music] to link arms with
[00:00:54] each other. being willing to pay a price
[00:00:56] even if it's your own life. It's
[00:00:57] courage.
[00:00:58] &gt;&gt; And it goes back to what I just said. We
[00:01:00] are fighting on the [music] winning
[00:01:01] team.
[00:01:12] All right. Well, welcome everybody. I'm
[00:01:14] excited for today's episode of the
[00:01:16] Defending Freedom Show. I have a special
[00:01:18] guest today, a dear friend, and uh it's
[00:01:21] a woman of deep conviction, of deep
[00:01:24] Christian faith. Um she actually lives
[00:01:27] in a small uh town in the Hill Country,
[00:01:31] and uh her story really began, it's it's
[00:01:34] really incredible, but her story began
[00:01:36] sitting in her hairdressers's uh chair,
[00:01:39] and she saw a picture of something that
[00:01:42] was going on in the schools, and she
[00:01:45] couldn't unsee it. And it was from that
[00:01:47] moment she knew that she had to get
[00:01:49] involved. She had to do something. And
[00:01:52] it's been a five-year battle for her.
[00:01:54] It's taken her to school boards across
[00:01:57] the state of Texas. Uh she's spoken in
[00:01:59] hundreds of school boards at this point.
[00:02:01] She's a warrior. She's on the front line
[00:02:03] of this battle to protect children from
[00:02:06] harmful material in our schools. And uh
[00:02:10] she's also a legislative liaison for
[00:02:12] Recover America. and she's actually
[00:02:14] currently uh a plaintiff in a first
[00:02:18] amendment federal lawsuit against
[00:02:20] Houston ISD. And so I'm excited to
[00:02:22] welcome our guest today, Miss Bonnie
[00:02:25] Wallace. Hey, Bonnie, welcome to the
[00:02:27] Defending Freedom Show.
[00:02:28] &gt;&gt; It's a pleasure and an honor to be here.
[00:02:30] Thank you, Colobby.
[00:02:31] &gt;&gt; Absolutely. Well, thank you for coming.
[00:02:32] And before we get into all this, I mean,
[00:02:35] you know, before the court cases and the
[00:02:37] school boards, obviously your faith is a
[00:02:40] deep part of why you're in this battle,
[00:02:42] but can you maybe take us back before
[00:02:46] this, before that moment leading up to
[00:02:48] that when you saw that in your
[00:02:50] hairdresser's chair? Like what what was
[00:02:54] your faith like? What was your walk with
[00:02:56] the Lord like? Well, unfortunately, I
[00:02:59] would have to consider myself as a
[00:03:01] lukewarm Christian back then. Um, I
[00:03:04] didn't know that I was. I thought that I
[00:03:06] was fervent and zealous for God. But
[00:03:09] looking back, I realize I was actually
[00:03:11] an infant in Christ. You know, I was one
[00:03:13] of those people. Now, I call myself a
[00:03:15] Sunday Christian. I would go and for an
[00:03:18] hour, I would worship and praise and
[00:03:21] just really love on God. But when the
[00:03:24] sermon was over and the service was
[00:03:26] over, I would just wave, "Bye, God. See
[00:03:28] you next Sunday. Have a great week."
[00:03:31] &gt;&gt; So, I left him in the four walls of the
[00:03:32] church, I didn't carry him into my life.
[00:03:35] And I wasn't seeking him. I wasn't
[00:03:38] listening to him. I wasn't asking for
[00:03:40] guidance or I nothing only for that one
[00:03:44] hour a week, which is quite pathetic. So
[00:03:47] that's that's where I found myself um
[00:03:50] when my book odyssey began. That's the
[00:03:53] kind of Christian I was. Did I go to
[00:03:56] church? Oh, definitely. Every did I
[00:03:58] consider myself a Christian? Definitely.
[00:04:01] &gt;&gt; But what I tell people now is it's like
[00:04:04] the men that wear a pink skirt and
[00:04:06] identify as a girl. That does not make
[00:04:09] them a girl.
[00:04:11] And so people that identify as a
[00:04:13] Christian, but they have no fruits and
[00:04:15] they do not live a life a godly a
[00:04:18] God-seeking life,
[00:04:20] &gt;&gt; well, just because you identify as a
[00:04:22] Christian, it doesn't mean you're going
[00:04:23] to get into the pearly gates, right? I
[00:04:26] mean, the Bible tells us,
[00:04:29] &gt;&gt; "Depart from me. I never knew you." And
[00:04:31] so many of us will hear that. So, um, I
[00:04:35] will not be one of them. Now, I'm
[00:04:36] following Jesus.
[00:04:38] &gt;&gt; Praise God. But it did take a a few
[00:04:40] lawsuits and um a lot of bad books. But
[00:04:44] um God refineses us by the fire, right?
[00:04:47] &gt;&gt; And the only way we're going to be
[00:04:49] refined is by fire. So when we have fire
[00:04:53] in our life, we embrace it and we just
[00:04:56] thank God for it and then um
[00:04:59] he gets us through it. It's a beautiful
[00:05:01] thing.
[00:05:01] &gt;&gt; Amen.
[00:05:02] &gt;&gt; Praise God. and and so and then so you
[00:05:05] that was your life and then you go to
[00:05:08] your hairdresser.
[00:05:09] So, in June, July of 2021,
[00:05:14] several friends of mine, not close
[00:05:16] friends, acquaintances more, um they
[00:05:18] were telling me, "Have you seen any of
[00:05:20] the bad books?" And and this was in the
[00:05:22] public library, the Atlanta public
[00:05:23] library. You said schools in the intro.
[00:05:26] Um which is kind of what I battle now,
[00:05:28] but at the time it was it was the public
[00:05:30] library. And I said, "No, I haven't seen
[00:05:32] any." And months went by with this
[00:05:35] conversation about what's in books, but
[00:05:38] I had never actually seen any any
[00:05:42] evidence. And so one day I'm getting my
[00:05:43] haircut. It was November 10th, 2021.
[00:05:46] &gt;&gt; And my hairdresser, a really courageous
[00:05:51] godly woman. She loves God. She's young.
[00:05:53] She's like 42.
[00:05:55] &gt;&gt; And she said, "Have you seen any of the
[00:05:57] pictures?" And I said, "No." And she
[00:05:59] said, "Let me show you one." So she
[00:06:01] whips open her cell phone and from the
[00:06:03] you know picture page she has a picture
[00:06:06] and um
[00:06:09] it was from the book Gender Queer and it
[00:06:12] was a picture of a [&nbsp;__&nbsp;] um two
[00:06:17] children engaged in a [&nbsp;__&nbsp;] and I I
[00:06:20] just like I could not believe it. I
[00:06:22] could not believe it. I asked her, "Can
[00:06:24] you text me that picture?" And she said,
[00:06:26] "No, I will be sending pornography if I
[00:06:29] send it to you." So I said, "Okay, put
[00:06:31] it on your phone." And I with my phone
[00:06:33] took a picture of her phone, the picture
[00:06:36] on her phone.
[00:06:37] &gt;&gt; And I went home and I um I created a an
[00:06:41] email that I sent to over a hundred
[00:06:42] people. And I attached that picture and
[00:06:46] I said I sent it to every pastor I know
[00:06:49] in Lano County. I sent it to the county
[00:06:52] judge. I sent it to every business owner
[00:06:55] and every parent I knew. Now, keep in
[00:06:57] mind, my daughter Reagan had graduated
[00:06:59] from Lo High School in May of 2019. So,
[00:07:02] this is a few years later and um I don't
[00:07:06] necessarily know a lot of people with
[00:07:09] children in the school district, but
[00:07:11] anyway. Um so, I sent this email out.
[00:07:14] Everybody was blind copied and my my
[00:07:18] email just said that we have a crisis in
[00:07:20] Lano. Satan is after our children. See,
[00:07:22] I knew that much.
[00:07:24] &gt;&gt; I knew enough to know that this was a
[00:07:26] spiritual battle. And so, I said, "Satan
[00:07:29] is after our children. We need to be
[00:07:31] having weekly prayer, maybe at the
[00:07:33] courthouse square. Let's get together.
[00:07:36] Let's invite God into our community to
[00:07:38] protect the children of our community."
[00:07:42] And so, um, that's how my odyssey began.
[00:07:45] &gt;&gt; Wow. And so from there,
[00:07:48] um, you did you put together a list of
[00:07:50] books like how did you from that moment
[00:07:53] like how did you take it into the Leno
[00:07:55] County like the fight into the Leno
[00:07:57] County?
[00:07:58] &gt;&gt; Yes. So, so
[00:08:00] earlier that year, uh, state
[00:08:02] representative Matt Krauss, he's now a
[00:08:04] Tarant County Commissioner, he had
[00:08:06] published an email to every school
[00:08:09] district in Texas, and he had created
[00:08:12] the Matt Krauss list. And it was 862
[00:08:17] bad books, books that had um, sexually
[00:08:20] explicit content. Some of them had
[00:08:22] pictures, some of them just words.
[00:08:25] They're equally bad, by the way. Um but
[00:08:28] also a lot of CRT and um hating on cops
[00:08:33] and hating America, hating your dad, you
[00:08:36] know. Um listen, Satan is after the
[00:08:39] children. He's after the family. And the
[00:08:43] first way to decapitate the dad and get
[00:08:45] the dad out of the picture is what he's
[00:08:48] been it's been useful for him. It's been
[00:08:51] effective for Satan. And um so all of
[00:08:56] these things I went through the Lano um
[00:08:59] county library catalog and a friend
[00:09:03] helped me. She had been a librarian
[00:09:05] there for several years and so she
[00:09:08] actually cross referenced each book on
[00:09:10] the Matt Cross list and we we found we
[00:09:13] had almost 60. We had 59 books. And so I
[00:09:16] also attached that email to to the
[00:09:19] original email that list. These are the
[00:09:21] the books that we have. And listen, um
[00:09:24] the judge immediately ordered the
[00:09:27] librarian to remove the the book with
[00:09:29] the picture of and found others. And so
[00:09:33] um a few months later in April of 2022,
[00:09:37] that's when we were sued. the the county
[00:09:40] judge, all four commissioners, the
[00:09:42] library director, me, because I told
[00:09:44] them about it. I'm like, "Okay, well, so
[00:09:49] listen, God uses the hard stuff." And
[00:09:52] that was not even the hard stuff because
[00:09:54] &gt;&gt; the truth is we're fighting on the
[00:09:56] winning team,
[00:09:58] &gt;&gt; right? We we are going to win. It won't
[00:10:00] be in the time frame we think, and it
[00:10:02] won't be even in the way we think, but
[00:10:04] we will have victory over, right,
[00:10:07] &gt;&gt; this evil,
[00:10:08] &gt;&gt; right? And so, so it's interesting. So,
[00:10:11] you know, looking back now, I could see
[00:10:12] where you're at today cuz I I know a
[00:10:16] little bit about your journey, uh, where
[00:10:17] you could look back and say that wasn't
[00:10:19] the hard stuff. But at the time, you
[00:10:21] know, you went from being this lukewarm
[00:10:22] Christian
[00:10:24] &gt;&gt; to seeing what was in the library to
[00:10:28] actively saying, "Okay, I've got to do
[00:10:29] something about this." And then when you
[00:10:31] step in to do something,
[00:10:34] then it's, you know, God puts you in the
[00:10:37] fire and you get sued.
[00:10:40] I mean,
[00:10:42] how what was going through your heart
[00:10:44] and your mind when you first, I guess,
[00:10:46] got served or found out you were
[00:10:49] &gt;&gt; Yeah.
[00:10:49] &gt;&gt; Well, it's scary.
[00:10:51] &gt;&gt; It's scary. Bob and I have um a personal
[00:10:54] umbrella and so I wasn't at all worried
[00:10:56] about it. I'm like, well, we have a
[00:10:58] personal umbrella. It'll take care of
[00:10:59] us. But when we actually sent it to the
[00:11:01] company who had issued our policy, they
[00:11:04] say, "Oh, volunteer work is not
[00:11:05] covered."
[00:11:06] &gt;&gt; And so I was volunteering. I was a
[00:11:08] volunteer on the Lano County Library
[00:11:11] Advisory Board. So I was appointed, but
[00:11:14] it was it was a volunteer position. And
[00:11:17] so I'm like, well, I mean, wow, that's
[00:11:20] not very good. And a lot of people's
[00:11:22] efforts are on volunteer work. And so I
[00:11:25] think um yeah, so I you know, God has
[00:11:31] blessed me with um a husband who planned
[00:11:34] well and worked hard and so it wasn't
[00:11:37] financially the scary part. It was just
[00:11:40] just the whole thing. Then there was
[00:11:43] another lawsuit. So one of the
[00:11:44] librarians that was fired because she
[00:11:47] kept putting these same 17 books back
[00:11:49] into the children's section. Um, and the
[00:11:53] the judge and the commissioners told her
[00:11:56] repeatedly, I think 10 times, "Do not
[00:11:58] put these books accessible to children."
[00:12:01] She continued doing it. And so she was
[00:12:04] fired. And so then she sued them and me
[00:12:07] too. I don't know why. And
[00:12:09] &gt;&gt; yeah, why would she sue you? You
[00:12:11] &gt;&gt; I have nothing [laughter] to do with
[00:12:12] county employment, you know, nothing.
[00:12:14] But yeah, it was cascading kind of. But
[00:12:18] um
[00:12:20] that's what really what brought me
[00:12:21] closer to Jesus was just going through
[00:12:23] the fire. And it was scary. I wasn't
[00:12:26] worried about the money per se. But I
[00:12:29] mean, you think about it, people can sue
[00:12:30] you and take your home away. They can
[00:12:32] take everything.
[00:12:33] &gt;&gt; Yeah. They can really wreck your life.
[00:12:35] &gt;&gt; They can wreck your life. And they have
[00:12:36] to, you know, the lefties go after
[00:12:40] &gt;&gt; people that are standing.
[00:12:42] &gt;&gt; They don't want anyone standing for
[00:12:43] Jesus. And so, and they've destroyed so
[00:12:46] many lives. Um, I didn't necessarily
[00:12:49] um worry too much about that, I guess.
[00:12:53] But, you know, in a tiny town, Lo has
[00:12:56] 3,000 people, so we're a small town
[00:12:58] &gt;&gt; and we know almost everybody. Um,
[00:13:03] when we were going through the the
[00:13:05] public library lawsuit, I did I had
[00:13:08] immediately checked the high school
[00:13:10] because my daughter had just graduated a
[00:13:12] few years earlier. And so I checked
[00:13:14] immediately and they had way worse books
[00:13:17] than the public library, believe it or
[00:13:19] not.
[00:13:20] &gt;&gt; And so, but I was, you know, I was
[00:13:23] telling God because I always tell God
[00:13:25] what I think he should do. Do you ever
[00:13:27] do that?
[00:13:27] &gt;&gt; Yeah. Well, [laughter] yeah. So, I was
[00:13:30] just saying, "Okay, God, send me a
[00:13:31] helper and I will instruct them, inform
[00:13:34] them, engage them, and we'll get the
[00:13:36] books out of the school, too."
[00:13:38] &gt;&gt; But that was not what God had in mind.
[00:13:41] And so, I waited literally for two years
[00:13:44] before I ever went after the high
[00:13:46] school.
[00:13:47] &gt;&gt; And um yeah, so I challenged 38 books at
[00:13:51] the high school.
[00:13:52] &gt;&gt; And the principal or the superintendent
[00:13:54] called me. His son graduated with my
[00:13:56] daughter. My daughter's graduating class
[00:13:58] had 113 students. So small.
[00:14:01] &gt;&gt; Yeah.
[00:14:01] &gt;&gt; And we know all of them. Four of the
[00:14:03] school board members had a child in my
[00:14:06] daughter's graduating class and the
[00:14:08] superintendent and the superintendent
[00:14:10] secretary. And so um you know we know
[00:14:13] these people and I know them to be good
[00:14:16] people
[00:14:17] even maybe identify as Christians but
[00:14:21] knowing the right thing to do and having
[00:14:23] the courage to stand and do it. Those
[00:14:25] are com two completely different things.
[00:14:27] &gt;&gt; Right. Right. Yeah. And um you know it's
[00:14:31] interesting is the idea of this
[00:14:33] spiritual battle. I've mentioned this on
[00:14:34] the podcast before but it's you know
[00:14:36] it's Revelations 12, right? And when
[00:14:41] Satan lost that battle to Michael and he
[00:14:43] fell to earth, it says he was enraged
[00:14:46] and he went off to make war against
[00:14:48] those who keep God's command and hold
[00:14:50] fast to their testimony in Jesus Christ.
[00:14:53] and that the spiritual battle that we're
[00:14:55] waging,
[00:14:57] it's so prevalent in all these different
[00:14:59] areas and in particular the war on
[00:15:02] children and it's between trafficking
[00:15:05] and the materials in the schools and
[00:15:08] what's happening, you know, to our
[00:15:10] children in America. But the good news
[00:15:13] is that in that same chapter, he says
[00:15:16] that they overcame by the blood of the
[00:15:18] lamb, the word of their testimony, and
[00:15:20] that they were not afraid uh to die,
[00:15:23] basically. And that's what we see in
[00:15:26] America today. We're really good at,
[00:15:28] hey, the blood of the lamb, you got to
[00:15:30] get saved. And then sharing your
[00:15:31] testimony. Oh, man. That's good. But we
[00:15:33] do it inside the church. Very rare do we
[00:15:36] see people out, you know? There we go.
[00:15:38] And then, but that third piece is so
[00:15:40] critical. And what it boils down to is
[00:15:42] being willing to pay a price even if
[00:15:44] it's your own life. It's courage. That's
[00:15:45] right.
[00:15:46] &gt;&gt; It's courage to stand up and do the
[00:15:47] right thing. And what we see so often
[00:15:49] and you just described it is we there's
[00:15:51] probably good people
[00:15:53] &gt;&gt; in office in some of these schoolboard,
[00:15:55] but they not all of them lack the
[00:15:57] courage to do the right thing. Well, and
[00:16:01] you know, I go back to my favorite
[00:16:02] scripture, Joshua 1:9.
[00:16:04] &gt;&gt; And I when I speak, I always
[00:16:08] say the scripture, be strong and
[00:16:09] courageous. Do not be terrified. Do not
[00:16:11] be discouraged. The Lord your God goes
[00:16:13] with you wherever you go. But then I
[00:16:15] tell people, did anybody in the room
[00:16:17] notice I left out part of that
[00:16:19] scripture? Because really that's the
[00:16:21] only part of the scripture that's
[00:16:22] glamorized all on wall art, t-shirts,
[00:16:26] coffee mugs, my Bible cover, you know,
[00:16:29] &gt;&gt; and so, but the part I left off, you of
[00:16:31] course know,
[00:16:32] &gt;&gt; have I not commanded you?
[00:16:35] &gt;&gt; Be strong and courageous. Do not be
[00:16:37] terrified. Do not be discouraged. The
[00:16:39] Lord your God goes with you wherever you
[00:16:40] go. And it goes back to what I just
[00:16:43] said. We are fighting on the winning
[00:16:44] team. But
[00:16:47] it's not how we wake up tomorrow
[00:16:50] morning. Do we feel strong and
[00:16:51] courageous?
[00:16:53] If we don't, guess what? We still have
[00:16:54] to go fight. We have to go to school
[00:16:56] boards. We have to run for office.
[00:16:57] Maybe. I don't know what God is telling
[00:16:59] your listeners, but your listeners know.
[00:17:02] And so, I just say, listen for God's
[00:17:04] still small voice. And it may be
[00:17:07] hopefully not that you have to go reborn
[00:17:09] in public, right? Because that's kind of
[00:17:11] that's kind of hard.
[00:17:12] &gt;&gt; It's not fun, folks.
[00:17:13] &gt;&gt; But it doesn't matter. It's whatever God
[00:17:15] tells us to do,
[00:17:16] &gt;&gt; right?
[00:17:17] &gt;&gt; We are to lean into it and we will have
[00:17:19] the most joyful life, the most fulfilled
[00:17:22] life that that we're supposed to have.
[00:17:25] The life that God created for us
[00:17:27] &gt;&gt; and us for.
[00:17:28] &gt;&gt; So good.
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[00:18:36] &gt;&gt; So, okay. So, you're this lawsuit in Lo,
[00:18:40] &gt;&gt; multiple lawsuits at this point that
[00:18:41] you're involved in.
[00:18:43] &gt;&gt; What was the outcome of those cases?
[00:18:46] &gt;&gt; So, God sent us an amazing warrior named
[00:18:49] Jonathan Mitchell to um to defend us and
[00:18:53] we had to pay because Lano County
[00:18:56] covered um my expenses. There were three
[00:18:59] people from the library advisory board
[00:19:01] sued. three out of 13. And so, um, the
[00:19:04] library advisory board kind of fell
[00:19:07] under the Lo County. They just felt like
[00:19:09] they had appointed us. They should
[00:19:10] defend us. And so, but the Lano County
[00:19:14] insurance would not pay to defend this
[00:19:17] lawsuit. In fact, what they told what
[00:19:19] the insurance company told Lano was,
[00:19:22] "Put the books back and settle the
[00:19:24] suit." And now, that's interesting.
[00:19:27] We'll we'll put that on the shelf for a
[00:19:28] second. But um so we went we lost in
[00:19:32] Austin in federal district court. Of
[00:19:34] course we knew we would and then we
[00:19:36] appealed to the fifth circuit. They
[00:19:38] heard us in a bank of three, a panel of
[00:19:40] three first and had a very
[00:19:42] discombobulated ruling. So we appealed
[00:19:45] for an onbunk hearing which means before
[00:19:47] the full court and everyone laughed at
[00:19:50] us and said they're never going to hear
[00:19:51] you. They they hear three cases a year
[00:19:55] &gt;&gt; from the whole fifth circuit. thousands
[00:19:57] and thousands of appeals. They hear
[00:19:59] three. Well, guess what? They heard Lano
[00:20:01] County. That was the third one for 2023.
[00:20:05] &gt;&gt; Wow.
[00:20:05] &gt;&gt; And so, um, or 20, it was 2024, sorry.
[00:20:09] And so, in 2025, um, May 23rd of 2025,
[00:20:14] they came out with a magnificent ruling.
[00:20:16] When Jonathan Mitchell argued the case,
[00:20:18] he argued that library curation is
[00:20:21] actually government speech. The
[00:20:24] government buys the books. the
[00:20:25] government chooses which books to buy.
[00:20:27] The government can then change their
[00:20:29] mind on which books to have on the
[00:20:31] shelves. And so he made a a very crafty
[00:20:33] argument about government it being
[00:20:35] government speech. The fifth circuit in
[00:20:39] May in their ruling they threw out a a
[00:20:42] ruling that they had issued 30 years
[00:20:44] before in Campbell versus Tamony Parish
[00:20:48] School Board. They threw out their own
[00:20:50] ruling and they said we ruled in error
[00:20:52] 30 years ago. kind of like what they did
[00:20:54] with Ro v. Wade.
[00:20:55] &gt;&gt; Wow.
[00:20:56] &gt;&gt; And um they overturned that and they
[00:20:58] said that Lando County had the right to
[00:21:01] uh remove any book they wanted at any
[00:21:03] time they wanted for any reason they
[00:21:05] wanted. And um my favorite quote from
[00:21:08] that ruling is from Kyle Duncan. He's a
[00:21:11] Trump appointee. Amazing man. He said,
[00:21:15] "Take a deep breath everyone. No one is
[00:21:18] banning or burning books. If you cannot
[00:21:20] find a book you want at your local
[00:21:22] library, you can always buy it with your
[00:21:24] own money.
[00:21:26] &gt;&gt; And that's what this is about.
[00:21:28] Taxpayerfunded filth.
[00:21:31] &gt;&gt; Do we continue funding it or do we
[00:21:34] pivot? And I say we need to pivot.
[00:21:37] &gt;&gt; Yeah. 100%. We need to pivot.
[00:21:40] &gt;&gt; So, so the ruling in that case, did it
[00:21:44] um is it is the case still active or is
[00:21:45] it like is it there has been? Okay. So,
[00:21:48] well, it was we were happy with the
[00:21:50] ruling. Of course, we we prevailed. The
[00:21:53] seven people who sued Lano County and
[00:21:55] me, they appealed to the US Supreme
[00:21:57] Court and the US Supreme Court on
[00:22:00] December 8th, this past December 8th,
[00:22:03] said they would not hear the case.
[00:22:05] Generally, it's because they agree with
[00:22:07] the lower court ruling. You know, they
[00:22:09] they think the lower court got it right,
[00:22:10] so they don't need to rehear it, which
[00:22:13] is all good. Um, so it's a a big victory
[00:22:16] for libraries everywhere everywhere. But
[00:22:20] also, um, I think, you know, there's two
[00:22:22] cases that are kind of pending, kind of
[00:22:25] working their way up. One of them is at
[00:22:27] the 10th Circuit in Colorado and
[00:22:30] Jonathan Mitchell is defending that
[00:22:32] school district that was sued for
[00:22:33] removing 19 books. Lo County removed 17.
[00:22:37] This Elizabeth school district in
[00:22:39] Colorado removed 19 books. Worse than
[00:22:42] Lano's books. Lo's, you know, it was
[00:22:44] just the very beginning when I saw that
[00:22:46] first picture, Colby. I thought that was
[00:22:48] the worst picture I would ever see.
[00:22:51] &gt;&gt; Well, it's not even close. Wow.
[00:22:52] &gt;&gt; Not even close.
[00:22:54] &gt;&gt; And so, um, there's another case in the
[00:22:58] eighth circuit in Iowa that's also
[00:23:00] working its way up. So, we believe that
[00:23:03] within the next two to three years,
[00:23:05] there will be a case at the US Supreme
[00:23:07] Court that finally settles this once and
[00:23:10] for all. that content with extreme
[00:23:13] sexual graphic sex organs, sex acts, sex
[00:23:17] with animals, sex with dead bodies. I
[00:23:20] mean, all these things that we have in
[00:23:21] our school books
[00:23:23] that that is no longer necessary. It
[00:23:28] isn't necessary now, but the Supreme
[00:23:30] Court really needs to rule in on that
[00:23:32] and and set a a nationwide precedent for
[00:23:35] us.
[00:23:35] &gt;&gt; I agree. I agree. It sounds like that's
[00:23:37] what's happening.
[00:23:38] &gt;&gt; Yes. Praise God. as we speak. So, we
[00:23:40] need to continue to pray for that.
[00:23:42] &gt;&gt; Um, but so
[00:23:44] there's been a few years since Lo and
[00:23:47] you have been a road warrior.
[00:23:49] &gt;&gt; Yes.
[00:23:50] &gt;&gt; You have been speaking really across the
[00:23:53] country. That's right.
[00:23:54] &gt;&gt; I mean, not just Texas, really across
[00:23:55] the country.
[00:23:56] &gt;&gt; How many school boards? How many?
[00:23:59] &gt;&gt; Well, my best number is 164, I believe.
[00:24:03] That's right. It could be a few higher
[00:24:04] because um but that's plenty. It's not
[00:24:08] that many actually. I mean, the number
[00:24:09] is a big pretty big number. But think
[00:24:12] about it this way. Texas has 1,27
[00:24:15] school districts.
[00:24:17] &gt;&gt; So, I'm barely at 15%.
[00:24:21] &gt;&gt; I have a lot of work to do.
[00:24:22] &gt;&gt; Yes. And you know, look, we did an
[00:24:24] episode um our first episode actually
[00:24:26] was with Shannon S. I love her.
[00:24:28] &gt;&gt; The education director for CDF in Texas.
[00:24:31] And um
[00:24:32] &gt;&gt; we it was interesting when um we put
[00:24:36] that episode. But we got a lot of
[00:24:38] comments and one of the things that
[00:24:42] that I saw that was brought up was this
[00:24:44] idea that um you know this is isolated.
[00:24:48] It's just a few libraries. You guys are
[00:24:50] painting with a broad brush. This is not
[00:24:52] happening. This is not taking place. You
[00:24:54] know, stop doing this type deal. Is that
[00:24:57] the is that the case? What have you
[00:24:59] seen? Well, the fact is that I've been
[00:25:01] in over 2,000 school libraries online
[00:25:04] and I have not found one clean library.
[00:25:08] &gt;&gt; So, not one library that doesn't have
[00:25:10] filth in it.
[00:25:12] &gt;&gt; So, I would say it's very prevalent.
[00:25:14] &gt;&gt; Wow.
[00:25:14] &gt;&gt; That's my experience. Sad, but true.
[00:25:17] &gt;&gt; Wow. And there's something else that
[00:25:18] you've I've heard you say um and
[00:25:22] [clears throat] you say and it's
[00:25:24] actually really powerful, but it's
[00:25:25] because it's true.
[00:25:28] Tell us about the library book list for
[00:25:31] the Texas prisons.
[00:25:33] &gt;&gt; Yeah, I was very shocked. I I go out and
[00:25:36] speak at school boards often with
[00:25:38] pastors. And so, Pastor Richard Vega
[00:25:40] from Houston brought a young man to a
[00:25:43] San Antonio school district to speak one
[00:25:46] day. And I had never met him before. I
[00:25:48] usually meet ahead of time with the
[00:25:50] folks that are going to be reading.
[00:25:52] Sometimes there's new ones. I don't know
[00:25:53] what they feel comfortable reading. you
[00:25:55] know, they may want to talk about
[00:25:57] suicide or um you know, not graphic. And
[00:26:02] so I have to get a feel. I bring a lot
[00:26:04] of books. And so I was handing out book
[00:26:07] reports to the people I knew. And this
[00:26:09] young man, David Stoker, um brand new,
[00:26:12] &gt;&gt; he said, um, "Yes, ma'am. I want to read
[00:26:16] a book." And I said, "Great." I said,
[00:26:17] "David, are you comfortable reading
[00:26:20] really graphic sex or you know?" And he
[00:26:23] said, "Miss Bonnie, I was 10 years in
[00:26:26] prison. I can read anything you got." So
[00:26:29] I said, "Great." So I gave him a book
[00:26:32] and I actually gave him the book to read
[00:26:34] that I was recently kicked out of
[00:26:35] Houston, you know, with three police
[00:26:38] officers taken out for reading. Same
[00:26:40] book. That book is in almost every
[00:26:42] single school. If that book has been
[00:26:44] removed from many schools because of my
[00:26:47] advocacy because people watch me on
[00:26:50] social media reading it and a lot of
[00:26:52] schools have removed that single book.
[00:26:54] But the book is the fifth in a series of
[00:26:58] five, book six and is coming out in
[00:27:01] October, book seven in January. So get
[00:27:04] ready for Morfield. But uh so I gave him
[00:27:07] that book and um when it was his turn to
[00:27:10] read, he got up to the microphone and
[00:27:13] he's a young man and um he started
[00:27:16] reading and it's so
[00:27:19] filthy that I guess he had not maybe
[00:27:22] kind of skimmed it before he got up to
[00:27:24] the microphone, but he started reading
[00:27:26] it and he literally began to weep.
[00:27:29] &gt;&gt; Wow.
[00:27:29] &gt;&gt; And it it got so quiet in the room.
[00:27:32] There were about 250 people give or take
[00:27:34] in the room and everybody was just
[00:27:36] watching and listening to his anguish
[00:27:39] because he was he was really weeping
[00:27:43] &gt;&gt; and um it was very hard to listen to but
[00:27:46] he collected himself and he told the
[00:27:48] school board he said I have two
[00:27:51] daughters one's 12 and one's 13 and I
[00:27:56] cannot believe I have to stand up here
[00:27:57] and ask you to remove this but he said
[00:28:00] let me tell you I spent 10 years in
[00:28:02] prison. This book would not be allowed
[00:28:05] in prison. And so he was done that, you
[00:28:08] know, that evening when everyone else
[00:28:09] had spoken. He came up and he apologized
[00:28:11] to me and I said, "No, David, you were
[00:28:13] amazing. You were so authentic and
[00:28:16] anguished and it's beautiful." But I
[00:28:19] said, "Tell me about the prison list."
[00:28:21] And so he began telling me that anything
[00:28:23] with graphic that book actually wouldn't
[00:28:25] be disqualified because I sent it to the
[00:28:28] prison because I I found a person in
[00:28:30] prison that I can mail books to and I
[00:28:32] thought that one would qualify. But it's
[00:28:34] actually anything with graphic illegal
[00:28:36] acts,
[00:28:37] &gt;&gt; rape,
[00:28:38] &gt;&gt; okay,
[00:28:38] &gt;&gt; incest, sex with animals, sex with dead
[00:28:41] bodies, mullation. Listen, Colby, we
[00:28:44] have all those five things in our
[00:28:46] schools.
[00:28:47] &gt;&gt; I know.
[00:28:48] &gt;&gt; It's shocking. A brand new book recently
[00:28:50] came out about maybe six weeks ago. It's
[00:28:53] called Cibiline by Melissa Dela Cruz.
[00:28:56] She's a very popular artist, author. Um
[00:29:00] it has a a threesome with a dead body.
[00:29:03] 14y olds,
[00:29:04] &gt;&gt; y'all.
[00:29:05] &gt;&gt; Wow.
[00:29:05] &gt;&gt; What are we doing? We have to do better.
[00:29:08] And you know, so many of the books, I've
[00:29:10] found like nine now that have
[00:29:12] disclaimers on the publishers page. So
[00:29:15] the first one I found says, "The authors
[00:29:17] and publisher expressly disclaim
[00:29:19] responsibility for any adverse effects
[00:29:22] which may result from the use or
[00:29:24] application of the information contained
[00:29:26] in this book." Right underneath that,
[00:29:28] Random House children's books. That
[00:29:31] particular book is called Let's Talk
[00:29:33] About It. It was the 2022 great graphic
[00:29:36] novel of the year, book of the year for
[00:29:38] 12 year olds.
[00:29:40] &gt;&gt; Getting awards. It tells um 12-year-old
[00:29:43] children, look up interviews with your
[00:29:44] favorite porn performers. Go to the
[00:29:46] sites they recommend and pay for your
[00:29:49] porn. And so um but it tells me the
[00:29:52] publishers know what they're doing if
[00:29:54] they're putting a disclaimer, right?
[00:29:56] &gt;&gt; Wow. And there's other you talk is that
[00:29:59] there's another book too that takes kids
[00:30:01] to QR codes.
[00:30:03] &gt;&gt; Yes.
[00:30:03] &gt;&gt; Do you know what what's the name of that
[00:30:04] book?
[00:30:04] &gt;&gt; That book's called Trans Plus. It's by
[00:30:06] Katherine Gonzal uh Katherine Gonzalez.
[00:30:09] It has 75 QR codes. So, one of the QR
[00:30:13] codes takes you to a sex shop to buy sex
[00:30:17] toys, dilds,
[00:30:19] and all these things. This book is for
[00:30:21] 12-year-old children, and it's all over
[00:30:23] Texas. It's illegal in Texas now because
[00:30:26] of SB13.
[00:30:28] We we deliberately got QR codes and
[00:30:31] websites included in that bill so that
[00:30:34] any book that takes these kids like
[00:30:36] outside of the book to a nefarious
[00:30:39] location whether it be via a QR code or
[00:30:42] a website um it's not allowed but the
[00:30:45] books are still everywhere
[00:30:47] &gt;&gt; right and so uh one one of the videos
[00:30:50] they've taken down the video but it took
[00:30:53] you to two trans
[00:30:57] they were they were women that wanted to
[00:30:59] be men. So, they had strapped on fake D
[00:31:01] and they were having sex. It was
[00:31:03] literally to a video. It's been taken
[00:31:05] down.
[00:31:06] &gt;&gt; Wow.
[00:31:06] &gt;&gt; Um, but listen, books are not a safe
[00:31:11] space right now.
[00:31:13] &gt;&gt; I think they will be again, but at the
[00:31:16] moment, I would not turn your kids loose
[00:31:18] in a library.
[00:31:19] &gt;&gt; Right.
[00:31:22] Wow. Well, shifting gears, you um you
[00:31:26] actually collaborated uh with a young
[00:31:28] lady named Vanessa Civage and uh helped
[00:31:31] kind of launch uh what's called Behind
[00:31:33] the Shelves. What can you talk about
[00:31:36] that? What is that? Um how how is that
[00:31:39] helping uh people?
[00:31:40] &gt;&gt; Well, I think it is helping. Uh Vanessa
[00:31:42] Civage was the nurse who was fired from
[00:31:45] Texas Children's Hospital when she blew
[00:31:47] the whistle about transgender
[00:31:50] procedures. M
[00:31:52] &gt;&gt; and so um she I met her at the capital
[00:31:56] at the Texas capital. We would often be
[00:31:58] testifying the same day and often our
[00:32:00] bills were actually in the same
[00:32:02] committee and so we would you know be
[00:32:05] testifying and she came up to me and she
[00:32:08] said are the books that you've been
[00:32:11] reading are they really in the schools
[00:32:13] because she couldn't believe it. It's
[00:32:14] it's hard to believe. And so I said yes.
[00:32:18] And so she said, "Well, you know, a few
[00:32:20] months later, she said, 'I want to do um
[00:32:23] like a video about the books. Can you
[00:32:25] can you would you participate?" I of
[00:32:27] course. Listen, I'm always ready to talk
[00:32:30] about the book problem with anybody. And
[00:32:33] so we by the time we started the video,
[00:32:36] she said, "I want it to be a series and
[00:32:39] I I want a new initiative for her
[00:32:41] protecting Texas children um
[00:32:43] organization and it's called Behind the
[00:32:46] Shelves." And so we I went and it took,
[00:32:49] you know, I I don't remember, several
[00:32:51] days. We we did all the videos and I
[00:32:54] just showed them book after book after
[00:32:56] book. And so many people have downloaded
[00:32:59] that um the videos, but also the book
[00:33:03] list. She doesn't have a complete book
[00:33:05] list, by the way. I don't even have a
[00:33:07] complete book list. I find new books
[00:33:08] every day.
[00:33:09] &gt;&gt; Oh, I know. 2033
[00:33:12] is on my book list today, but um it
[00:33:16] grows all the time. It never shrinks. It
[00:33:18] only grows. And so there's still more
[00:33:21] work to do.
[00:33:22] &gt;&gt; I know there's all these lists out
[00:33:23] there. We have a a resource on
[00:33:25] citizensdefendingfreedom.com
[00:33:28] and uh if you go to our resource library
[00:33:31] and do education, we have a national
[00:33:33] list on there and it's just staggering.
[00:33:38] It's it doesn't even it's still a big
[00:33:40] list, but you know, it's almost like
[00:33:42] we're still discovering these books that
[00:33:45] are out there.
[00:33:46] &gt;&gt; I'm in a I'm in a signal group uh chat
[00:33:49] group with people from all over the US
[00:33:52] who have the same problem. And there's
[00:33:54] one man that every Tuesday he gives a
[00:33:57] list of all the books that were
[00:33:59] published. Apparently books are
[00:34:00] published on Tuesdays. I didn't know
[00:34:02] that. And so every Tuesday he publishes
[00:34:05] books that have questionable content.
[00:34:07] Now, we haven't read them because they
[00:34:09] may be just published, but they haven't
[00:34:11] been sold yet.
[00:34:12] &gt;&gt; And a lot of schools, by the way, they
[00:34:16] buy books that haven't even been
[00:34:17] published yet.
[00:34:19] &gt;&gt; And so, how can that be good, right?
[00:34:22] &gt;&gt; If you've never read it and no one, you
[00:34:24] know, has read it, I would say pause on
[00:34:27] that and wait because the books are so
[00:34:30] so harmful. just um
[00:34:34] Texas Public Policy Foundation
[00:34:36] foundation did I asked them to do some
[00:34:38] research on the effects of pornography
[00:34:40] on the brain and they they didn't do any
[00:34:43] research but what they did was they
[00:34:46] figured out that there had been a lot of
[00:34:47] research so they gave me several sheets
[00:34:50] of all of this research that had already
[00:34:52] been done the harmful effects of
[00:34:54] pornography on the brain and so they
[00:34:56] sent it to me with a caveat and that
[00:34:59] caveat was that all the research that's
[00:35:02] ever been done has been done on adults,
[00:35:05] right? Because who's going to, oh, here
[00:35:07] I'll donate my child. You can put them
[00:35:09] through the, you know, in inculcate them
[00:35:12] with porn and see if it affects them. I
[00:35:15] don't think any parent would want to do
[00:35:16] that,
[00:35:17] &gt;&gt; right?
[00:35:17] &gt;&gt; But um so it changes the pathways of
[00:35:22] your brain literally. And so, um, you
[00:35:26] know what I tell school boards when I go
[00:35:28] speak is that when we are sending out
[00:35:31] our children addicted to pornography,
[00:35:34] they will never have a normal sexual
[00:35:36] relationship ever because their idea of
[00:35:39] what sex looks like is so perverted and
[00:35:42] so distorted that they think it's
[00:35:44] normal, but you know, wife after wife
[00:35:47] after wife and sometimes it's the girls.
[00:35:49] So husband after husband after husband,
[00:35:51] they can't tolerate it because it's so
[00:35:54] perverted and so distorted.
[00:35:56] &gt;&gt; And so we have to do better. But it is
[00:35:58] an attack on the family,
[00:36:01] &gt;&gt; right?
[00:36:01] &gt;&gt; And so what do we do? We stand,
[00:36:03] &gt;&gt; right? We stand.
[00:36:05] So let's shift gears to Houston ISD.
[00:36:08] This is kind of the latest uh thing
[00:36:11] that's happened
[00:36:13] &gt;&gt; in your journey, in your odyssey.
[00:36:15] [laughter]
[00:36:16] Um, so you were at Houston ISD
[00:36:19] schoolboard meeting, the largest, by the
[00:36:21] way, largest ISD
[00:36:22] &gt;&gt; in Texas.
[00:36:23] &gt;&gt; In Texas, right? Um, how did you end up
[00:36:26] at the board meeting? This was what,
[00:36:28] March 19th?
[00:36:29] &gt;&gt; March 19th. So, I had actually spoken at
[00:36:32] Houston uh previously and um but
[00:36:39] between the last time I had spoken and
[00:36:41] March 19th of this year, the Texas the
[00:36:44] state of Texas had taken over the school
[00:36:47] district, right? Two and a half years
[00:36:49] ago, the the state of Texas took over
[00:36:52] because the the test scores were so bad
[00:36:54] and there's a bunch of criteria that
[00:36:57] have to fit into it. But the state of
[00:36:59] Texas took over. So the seven trustees
[00:37:02] are no longer elected trustees.
[00:37:05] &gt;&gt; They are appointed by the governor's
[00:37:07] people basically. I believe appointed by
[00:37:10] Mike Morath and so who was appointed by
[00:37:13] the governor
[00:37:14] &gt;&gt; but um doc uh pastor Richard Vega asked
[00:37:18] me to come again. Um Vanessa Civage was
[00:37:20] there, Dr. Rick Scarbor was there, uh
[00:37:23] Denise Bell's Moms for Liberty in Harris
[00:37:25] County was there and others. And um you
[00:37:29] know we had kind of strategized because
[00:37:32] how impactful would that be if we go to
[00:37:36] speak at Houston and these appointed
[00:37:38] trustees say what in the world we have
[00:37:41] to do better. Let's get rid of the
[00:37:43] books. Right. That was kind of what we
[00:37:45] were anticipating.
[00:37:46] &gt;&gt; That's what we were hoping for. That's
[00:37:48] probably what you hope for when you walk
[00:37:50] into every school board meeting.
[00:37:51] &gt;&gt; Amen. Amen. Yes. [laughter] Jesus.
[00:37:53] Listen up. That's exactly what I hope
[00:37:56] for. uh hardly happens. It's happened
[00:37:58] occasionally, so that's a good thing.
[00:38:00] But um no, so Houston when I, you know,
[00:38:04] Houston's process,
[00:38:06] &gt;&gt; if we just take a step back, Houston's
[00:38:08] process to sign up is so rigorous. It is
[00:38:11] like a bar exam. It's so hard to sign
[00:38:15] up.
[00:38:16] &gt;&gt; And that's intentional. They don't
[00:38:18] necessarily want people speaking. But we
[00:38:20] went through the process. I showed up to
[00:38:22] speak. It was my turn. I walked forward.
[00:38:25] They gave us one minute. It's hard to,
[00:38:27] you know, say a lot in one minute.
[00:38:29] &gt;&gt; Even if you're a local taxpayer, even if
[00:38:31] like your child's in the school
[00:38:32] district, it's a one minute.
[00:38:33] &gt;&gt; Everybody had one minute because there's
[00:38:35] so many people that want to speak that
[00:38:37] there's a you know,
[00:38:39] &gt;&gt; they put a limit.
[00:38:39] &gt;&gt; They put a limit. Got
[00:38:40] &gt;&gt; I think that I think we need a a law
[00:38:43] that addresses that because I don't
[00:38:45] think that's enough time. But
[00:38:46] nonetheless, I knew it going in. I knew
[00:38:48] I had a minute and so I just started
[00:38:50] reading um direct from the book. That's
[00:38:54] all I said. I did um mention to the the
[00:38:59] super or the um schoolboard president
[00:39:03] wasn't present that day. So the vice
[00:39:05] president was administering the meeting.
[00:39:08] Okay. So she I I said if there are
[00:39:12] children present um
[00:39:14] &gt;&gt; they need to leave the the audience. And
[00:39:17] she said she started banging the oh no
[00:39:19] no you can't read anything that's
[00:39:21] inappropriate. And I said, "Ah,
[00:39:23] inappropriate. Why is it in the high
[00:39:26] school libraries if it's inappropriate?"
[00:39:28] It's
[00:39:28] &gt;&gt; like she makes they make the case for
[00:39:30] you.
[00:39:30] &gt;&gt; I know. I know. They always do.
[00:39:32] &gt;&gt; Wow.
[00:39:33] &gt;&gt; So, um, I just started reading a few
[00:39:35] words and she started freaking out and
[00:39:37] then I kept reading a few more words and
[00:39:39] she's like, "No, no, you're in
[00:39:40] violation." And so, please escort her
[00:39:43] out. So, three police officers
[00:39:47] come to walk me out of the auditorium,
[00:39:50] then out of the building, and then to my
[00:39:53] car and told me they had to film me
[00:39:55] leaving the premises. Now, I'm with
[00:39:58] other people there. I wasn't alone. So,
[00:40:00] I drove off without anybody else and we
[00:40:03] had to meet up, you know, elsewhere.
[00:40:05] But the interesting thing is I'm a 59
[00:40:09] year old woman now. I was 58 at the
[00:40:11] time, but
[00:40:13] the truth that comes out of my mouth is
[00:40:15] so scary that three police officers
[00:40:19] have to walk me off the premises.
[00:40:21] &gt;&gt; Wow.
[00:40:22] &gt;&gt; They do not want truth to be told and
[00:40:25] they're embarrassed by the content and
[00:40:27] they should be,
[00:40:28] &gt;&gt; right?
[00:40:28] &gt;&gt; And so what's been done? Well, um, not
[00:40:32] much. I did check a couple weeks ago,
[00:40:35] one of the three high schools has
[00:40:36] removed the book. the other two it's
[00:40:39] still there.
[00:40:41] &gt;&gt; Wow. So they basically um
[00:40:45] I think this is a classic first
[00:40:46] amendment case. So what steps have you
[00:40:50] taken since that? Um from what I
[00:40:53] understand you've working with remnant
[00:40:56] law.
[00:40:56] &gt;&gt; I am.
[00:40:57] &gt;&gt; And you have um
[00:41:00] you've filed a lawsuit against the
[00:41:03] school district. Is that accurate?
[00:41:05] &gt;&gt; Yes. I was very hesitant to do so
[00:41:07] because um I'm a conservative.
[00:41:09] Conservative people don't go out and sue
[00:41:11] people, right? But I think we need to
[00:41:15] re-evaluate our playlist. The Democrats
[00:41:17] use lawfare against us
[00:41:20] &gt;&gt; and it's it's pretty effective and
[00:41:22] that's not necessarily the way we fight
[00:41:25] our battles. And so I actually had 12
[00:41:28] attorneys call me. Um some of them I
[00:41:31] didn't even know who they were. Um,
[00:41:33] several emailed me, not necessarily
[00:41:35] called, but 12 total, and said, "This is
[00:41:38] a very clear violation of the first of
[00:41:41] your first amendment rights. You need to
[00:41:43] sue. You need to sue. You need to sue."
[00:41:45] And so I I talked to my attorney,
[00:41:47] Jonathan Mitchell, and he's like, "Yes,
[00:41:49] clear violation. Pursue it. I don't have
[00:41:52] time to to help you, but and not my
[00:41:54] forte anyway." And so, um, I did talk to
[00:41:58] Jonathan Hulahan with Remnant Law and he
[00:42:01] he agreed definitely we need to do this.
[00:42:05] Um Brad Dus with Pacific Justice
[00:42:08] Institute has has asked to join the
[00:42:11] lawsuit and um so I think there's still
[00:42:14] parts moving. But basically, here is
[00:42:18] what my prayer is.
[00:42:21] That God will use this to first remove
[00:42:24] the books so that the children are
[00:42:26] protected because that's ultimately
[00:42:27] always my goal.
[00:42:29] &gt;&gt; But also in a way that other
[00:42:33] jurisdictions are watching and learning
[00:42:36] and you know maybe fearing. We don't
[00:42:39] necessarily want everyone to fear
[00:42:41] everything, but if you are doing things
[00:42:44] that detrimentally harm children, you
[00:42:47] should fear. And so, um, not me, but
[00:42:51] let's fear God and have the beginning of
[00:42:54] wisdom. That would be good,
[00:42:56] &gt;&gt; right? Absolutely. And and you know,
[00:42:57] because I think for so long, a lot of
[00:43:00] the school districts um
[00:43:04] let's just say the some of the bad ones
[00:43:06] and stuff, they have they have a lot of
[00:43:08] power
[00:43:08] &gt;&gt; and they're very arrogant.
[00:43:09] &gt;&gt; They have a tremendous amount of power
[00:43:11] and they can be very arrogant. Like you
[00:43:14] almost like untouchable.
[00:43:16] &gt;&gt; Well, think about it this way. if if I
[00:43:19] didn't sue and Houston got away with it,
[00:43:22] all the 1,26 other districts are
[00:43:25] watching,
[00:43:26] &gt;&gt; right?
[00:43:27] &gt;&gt; And they're going to be saying, "Well,
[00:43:28] we don't have we can do the same thing."
[00:43:30] I've had my mic cut many times when I'm
[00:43:33] reading. They just cut my mic off.
[00:43:35] &gt;&gt; Um I usually just keep reading louder,
[00:43:38] [laughter]
[00:43:39] &gt;&gt; but until my time's finished, but um
[00:43:42] walked out with three police officers.
[00:43:44] This was the first time. And um we
[00:43:47] really can't let Houston get away with
[00:43:49] it because of all of the impact that
[00:43:51] would have on every other jurisdiction.
[00:43:54] &gt;&gt; Right.
[00:43:54] &gt;&gt; So
[00:43:55] &gt;&gt; so pray is it sets a rip it sets the
[00:43:57] tone creates a ripple effect.
[00:43:59] &gt;&gt; That's right.
[00:44:00] &gt;&gt; So that other school districts take
[00:44:01] notice that this is serious like our our
[00:44:06] kids hearts and minds are at stake. It's
[00:44:08] not
[00:44:09] &gt;&gt; it's not about book banning. I love what
[00:44:12] you said. You say we need to set book
[00:44:14] boundaries.
[00:44:15] &gt;&gt; That's right.
[00:44:16] &gt;&gt; That's what it's about. Well, here's
[00:44:17] protecting kids.
[00:44:18] &gt;&gt; Not one book has been banned in America.
[00:44:21] You can buy any book you want anytime
[00:44:24] you want.
[00:44:24] &gt;&gt; That's right.
[00:44:25] &gt;&gt; You can buy it. This is about taxpayer
[00:44:27] funded filth. Should my tax dollars buy
[00:44:31] filth, Atlanta ISD or Atlanta Public
[00:44:34] Library or anybody else's buy filth at
[00:44:38] their public libraries and their school
[00:44:40] libraries? And I say no. I say that
[00:44:43] there has to be a consequence for doing
[00:44:45] so. Um I was with the lieutenant
[00:44:48] governor earlier today and we were
[00:44:50] talking about what we're going to do
[00:44:52] starting next session and he's like,
[00:44:53] "Okay, I'm going to need your help." And
[00:44:55] I said, "I'm here. Let's do it. Let's
[00:44:56] hit it hard. We have to have a
[00:44:59] consequence
[00:45:00] &gt;&gt; for any any bill that gets passed and
[00:45:03] signed into law. There has to be a
[00:45:05] penalty if you're ignoring it because
[00:45:06] that's what schools do. They just ignore
[00:45:08] it." Bob said, my husband said, "What we
[00:45:11] should do as a penalty is say one year
[00:45:13] with no football for any town in any
[00:45:16] school in Texas.
[00:45:17] &gt;&gt; Cut the funding for the football
[00:45:18] program."
[00:45:19] &gt;&gt; No funding for football. And he said the
[00:45:20] coaches would be prowling around the
[00:45:23] library pulling out any bad book. Right.
[00:45:25] &gt;&gt; Oh man. Especially in Texas.
[00:45:27] &gt;&gt; Especially in Texas.
[00:45:28] &gt;&gt; Yeah. Absolutely. Well, you're right.
[00:45:30] And I'm glad the lieutenant governor
[00:45:31] said that because a law without teeth is
[00:45:35] just a suggestion.
[00:45:36] &gt;&gt; That's right.
[00:45:36] &gt;&gt; That's all it is.
[00:45:37] &gt;&gt; Right. Amen.
[00:45:38] &gt;&gt; So,
[00:45:40] &gt;&gt; well, you've said it. I think we opened
[00:45:42] with this that, you know, this isn't
[00:45:45] this isn't a political battle, right?
[00:45:48] This is very much a spiritual battle.
[00:45:50] Very much so. And, you know, there's
[00:45:53] probably people in our audience that
[00:45:54] maybe get that. There might be people
[00:45:56] that don't.
[00:45:57] When we say stuff like that, what does
[00:46:00] that mean?
[00:46:02] &gt;&gt; Well, as a lukewarm Christian, I didn't
[00:46:05] understand it either. And so I give
[00:46:08] everyone grace if they don't understand
[00:46:10] it because what it is is uh it's part of
[00:46:14] that personal relationship that we have
[00:46:17] with Jesus getting closer and closer and
[00:46:19] closer. The more you spend time with
[00:46:21] him, the more you want to spend time
[00:46:22] with him. And the more fulfilled your
[00:46:24] life is for doing his will, the more you
[00:46:26] want to be fulfilled. And so but you it
[00:46:30] actually gives you a different
[00:46:32] viewpoint.
[00:46:33] &gt;&gt; And I go into a battle. Listen, me and
[00:46:36] Jesus, we're a majority. So, it doesn't
[00:46:39] matter if I'm with someone else
[00:46:41] &gt;&gt; because I always have the Holy Spirit
[00:46:43] with me. But, um, you can, you know, the
[00:46:46] Bible has stories about
[00:46:49] the the warriors, you know, on the hills
[00:46:53] and
[00:46:54] who was it? Isaiah said, "Drop the
[00:46:57] scales from his eyes so he can see."
[00:46:59] &gt;&gt; Right? And so, um, there's many, many
[00:47:03] stories about how there are legions of
[00:47:06] angels helping us. And this is what
[00:47:10] we're in. We are in a spiritual battle
[00:47:12] between good and evil. And you may not
[00:47:15] know Jesus. You know, your listeners,
[00:47:19] we can introduce him to you. But if you
[00:47:23] do know Jesus, just start listening to
[00:47:25] him more intently.
[00:47:27] Just ask him, "What do you want me to do
[00:47:30] for you?" And then listen to the answer.
[00:47:33] And then be obedient. That's the hardest
[00:47:36] part.
[00:47:37] &gt;&gt; Right. [laughter] Courage.
[00:47:38] &gt;&gt; Courage.
[00:47:39] &gt;&gt; That's right. You know,
[00:47:40] &gt;&gt; not not not not It's a scarce commodity
[00:47:43] these days, [laughter]
[00:47:44] &gt;&gt; very.
[00:47:45] &gt;&gt; Well, you know, Proverbs Proverbs 22:6
[00:47:48] says, "Raise up a child in the way they
[00:47:50] should go. Goart from it." Right. And uh
[00:47:53] but you know someone else is training
[00:47:56] our children in public education and
[00:47:59] it's you know they have a lot of them
[00:48:01] not all of them but a lot of them have a
[00:48:04] very different way
[00:48:06] &gt;&gt; of thinking or a different idea of what
[00:48:08] that should look like. So you know what
[00:48:11] do you think is the agenda behind
[00:48:13] placing this kind of content in front of
[00:48:15] our kids and like what's what's the long
[00:48:16] game? What does it lead to?
[00:48:19] Well, I think it's pretty obvious to me
[00:48:22] when I look at the pictures in the
[00:48:24] books. Listen, I have a book. I don't
[00:48:27] know if I've showed it to you. It is
[00:48:29] called Do Animals Fall in Love. And it's
[00:48:32] a a red cover, very beautiful little
[00:48:36] animals. And it's for four three to
[00:48:39] seven year olds. Three to seven year
[00:48:41] olds. And it says on one page, it has
[00:48:44] three whitetail deer mating. So, it has
[00:48:47] a dough on the bottom and then one buck
[00:48:50] on top of her and then another buck on
[00:48:52] top of the first buck. Well, I can
[00:48:54] guarantee you that is something you will
[00:48:56] never see in nature.
[00:48:57] &gt;&gt; I've been a deer hunter.
[00:48:58] &gt;&gt; I know.
[00:48:59] &gt;&gt; Since I all my life my daddy took me out
[00:49:02] to the deer. I've sat in blinds. I've
[00:49:03] spent hours. I've
[00:49:05] &gt;&gt; Yep.
[00:49:05] &gt;&gt; You know, I've hunted deer and animals
[00:49:07] all I've never seen that.
[00:49:08] &gt;&gt; No. And you will never see it because
[00:49:10] nature those two bucks will fight even
[00:49:13] sometimes to the death but they will
[00:49:16] never share a dough ever. And so um
[00:49:22] you'll never see that because only the
[00:49:24] human mind is perverted
[00:49:26] &gt;&gt; not nature. And they are trying to
[00:49:29] pervert the minds of children even by
[00:49:31] now using animals showing oh look
[00:49:35] animals have threes. There's nothing
[00:49:37] wrong with three. That same book has 80
[00:49:40] animals. The penis size of 80 animals.
[00:49:44] The red-nosed monkey. And I can't
[00:49:46] remember all the ones. 80 animals. I had
[00:49:49] two three-year-old children in my life.
[00:49:52] Neither of them ever asked me the penis
[00:49:54] size of anything. Right.
[00:49:56] &gt;&gt; Right. Why are we planting demonic
[00:49:59] thoughts into the minds of our children?
[00:50:01] &gt;&gt; Exactly. Why teach that? Why not teach
[00:50:03] about, you know, what do they eat? What
[00:50:04] is their habitat? How do they coexist?
[00:50:07] How do they fight off predators? Are
[00:50:08] they, you know, hunter? Are they prey?
[00:50:10] Are they? And they're teaching this.
[00:50:13] &gt;&gt; Yeah, it's very weird. But if you look
[00:50:16] at the agenda, which is to sacrifice
[00:50:18] children, why would you want to
[00:50:20] sacrifice children? Well, many of them
[00:50:23] want to have sex with children. There
[00:50:25] are books that
[00:50:26] &gt;&gt; wow
[00:50:27] &gt;&gt; minimize having sex with children. And
[00:50:29] they say there's a book that Alfred
[00:50:32] Kinsey wrote and one of his proteges
[00:50:36] spawned off of and it talks about how a
[00:50:39] child having sex with their parent,
[00:50:41] there's nothing wrong with that and they
[00:50:43] can get wonderful feelings of warmth and
[00:50:45] intimacy.
[00:50:47] &gt;&gt; My gosh.
[00:50:48] &gt;&gt; Yeah. So, what's the long game?
[00:50:52] Unlimited sex for everybody with
[00:50:54] anybody. Period. Um, I can't think of
[00:50:58] any other agenda that could possibly
[00:51:02] that they could have. I I think that's
[00:51:04] it. I I won't know till I get to heaven,
[00:51:07] but um it's nefarious. It's dark. It's
[00:51:11] demonic. And we are called to stand
[00:51:14] against it.
[00:51:15] &gt;&gt; Yeah. You know, um
[00:51:19] part of our mission at Citizens
[00:51:20] Defending Freedom is to equip and
[00:51:22] activate the church to get involved,
[00:51:25] right? that you don't that this is
[00:51:28] indeed a spiritual battle. It's not
[00:51:30] political and it's it has to be the body
[00:51:33] of Christ that rises up in this hour to
[00:51:35] take a stand against this demonic evil.
[00:51:37] I mean, let's just call it what it is,
[00:51:38] right?
[00:51:39] &gt;&gt; Amen.
[00:51:39] &gt;&gt; And so, the church in Texas, really, the
[00:51:42] church in America, you know,
[00:51:46] we there's some very bold pastors.
[00:51:49] &gt;&gt; Not enough.
[00:51:50] &gt;&gt; Those p not enough, but if you're those
[00:51:51] bold pastors, I'm talking about you. But
[00:51:54] a lot of pastors in the church in large
[00:51:56] is quiet on this. You know why? What I
[00:52:00] mean what why do you think that is? And
[00:52:02] what do you say to the pastor who thinks
[00:52:04] that this is too controversial to get
[00:52:07] into to even talk about from the pullpit
[00:52:10] to educate his congregation on what's
[00:52:14] taking place in our public education? Um
[00:52:16] what I mean why and what do you say to
[00:52:19] that pastor? Well, I only have one thing
[00:52:21] to say and it's fear of man.
[00:52:24] If you fear the congregation will leave
[00:52:26] if you are preaching about sin. Do you
[00:52:29] know how many pastors don't even preach
[00:52:31] about sin anymore?
[00:52:32] &gt;&gt; The majority, the vast majority.
[00:52:35] &gt;&gt; But the good news is God only needs a
[00:52:37] remnant. And he doesn't even need it. He
[00:52:39] just wants a remnant. He wants us to
[00:52:41] partner with him. Um yeah. So if you
[00:52:45] fear man and you fear that those
[00:52:48] congregation members are going to leave,
[00:52:50] you know that money that they put in
[00:52:52] every Sunday for their one-hour worship.
[00:52:57] If they are going to leave and that's
[00:52:59] what you care about, then you're not
[00:53:01] caring about the fear of God. You're
[00:53:03] caring about the fear of man. And
[00:53:05] listen, it's prevalent. I mean, um,
[00:53:08] yeah, I go to I go to churches. I I've
[00:53:11] been invited by many pastors to come and
[00:53:14] I don't preach a sermon. I just preach,
[00:53:16] you know, porn. [laughter]
[00:53:19] And
[00:53:20] &gt;&gt; you expose it.
[00:53:21] &gt;&gt; I expose it. And I say, "This is in your
[00:53:24] children's schools right now in your
[00:53:27] town." They can't believe it. I mean,
[00:53:28] people are just shocked. Even now, five
[00:53:31] years into this battle,
[00:53:32] &gt;&gt; I would think that everybody would know,
[00:53:34] but they don't. And here's the thing. I
[00:53:37] I often
[00:53:39] there must be good librarians in
[00:53:41] America. I have not yet met one, but
[00:53:44] there must be some good ones. I can't
[00:53:45] wait to meet one.
[00:53:47] &gt;&gt; But if I was a librarian
[00:53:51] and I did not know what was in my
[00:53:53] library, I would start digging.
[00:53:56] &gt;&gt; And so when librarians tell me, you
[00:53:58] know, I had no idea. Well, then you need
[00:54:00] to do a better job at your job because
[00:54:03] in the end, protecting the minds of
[00:54:06] children should be paramount above
[00:54:09] everything else. We protect the
[00:54:11] children. And so, um, yeah, but you're
[00:54:15] right. Pastors are not being bold.
[00:54:17] Pastors are fearful of losing, you know,
[00:54:21] I guess, money,
[00:54:23] empty seats. I don't know. But I I
[00:54:26] believe that it just leads back to fear
[00:54:29] of man.
[00:54:32] &gt;&gt; You're probably right,
[00:54:34] &gt;&gt; sadly.
[00:54:34] &gt;&gt; So
[00:54:36] for the mom and dad out there that are
[00:54:39] listening and they're hearing this for
[00:54:41] the first time or they're or they're
[00:54:44] hearing this now and they're like,
[00:54:45] "Okay, this is I've got to do
[00:54:48] something."
[00:54:50] Advice recommend where can they start?
[00:54:53] How can they how can they begin getting
[00:54:55] involved?
[00:54:56] &gt;&gt; Yes, great question. So, if you're going
[00:55:01] to look in a school library, I will tell
[00:55:03] your listeners and your viewers to go to
[00:55:06] takebacktheclassroom.com.
[00:55:11] Karen, England has almost every school
[00:55:14] in America listed on there by state. So,
[00:55:17] you can scroll down to Texas and then
[00:55:19] you can scroll down to Lano and you'll
[00:55:22] see that at the point that she redid
[00:55:24] that one about two months ago, um, we
[00:55:27] added a thousand more books. By the way,
[00:55:29] I gave her a list a year and a half ago
[00:55:32] and my list had 325 books on it. So,
[00:55:36] that's what she ran. And, um, we did a
[00:55:39] fundraiser and we added 1,000 new bad
[00:55:42] books. So now she's done 1325 and now
[00:55:45] I'm up to 2033.
[00:55:48] We we need another fundraiser. But um I
[00:55:52] would say look into your school library.
[00:55:54] You can find it online and um look on
[00:55:59] takebacktheclassroom.com and you can
[00:56:01] find the names of bad books. Many of the
[00:56:04] bad books she doesn't yet have a book
[00:56:06] report there for but you can find book
[00:56:09] reports at ratedbooks.org.
[00:56:11] That's Brook Stevens from Utah. She's an
[00:56:15] amazing godly woman. Also young mother
[00:56:18] um who's doing amazing things. And also
[00:56:22] Vanessa Civage um behind the shelves.
[00:56:25] It's protecting Texas children. The
[00:56:26] initiative is behind the shelves. You
[00:56:29] can go on there. She also has how to
[00:56:32] challenge those books at your at your
[00:56:35] school. Mhm.
[00:56:36] &gt;&gt; So, it is illegal in Texas to have
[00:56:39] anything that is profane or indecent.
[00:56:41] Profane or indecent means if I cannot
[00:56:44] read it on network television or at a
[00:56:46] school board meeting that's profane and
[00:56:49] indecent, it needs to go, right? It's
[00:56:52] &gt;&gt; common sense, right? Not so common. But,
[00:56:55] um, Vanessa has challenge forms on there
[00:56:58] and different material. But, um, any of
[00:57:02] your listeners can reach out to me. I
[00:57:04] answer every phone call, every email,
[00:57:06] and um I don't do social media. I'm
[00:57:09] often on social media, but I don't do
[00:57:11] social media. And so, you can't reach
[00:57:13] out to me that way, but um you can put
[00:57:16] my email on your
[00:57:19] on the screen or something.
[00:57:20] &gt;&gt; Absolutely.
[00:57:21] &gt;&gt; And uh I will help you because the most
[00:57:24] important part is to start. the first
[00:57:27] step's the hardest and um but we can
[00:57:30] protect kids together and it's going to
[00:57:32] take every one of us because guess what?
[00:57:35] The Calvary is not coming to save the
[00:57:38] children in your community.
[00:57:41] You are the Calvary. We are the Calvary.
[00:57:44] So,
[00:57:44] &gt;&gt; Amen. Amen. Well, why don't you go ahead
[00:57:46] and if you want, we can put it in the
[00:57:49] chat, but you want to let people know
[00:57:50] how they can reach you?
[00:57:52] &gt;&gt; Yes, absolutely. defend the kids
[00:57:56] atraan.com. Dec defend the kids
[00:58:00] atraan.com. You can email me. Um if I
[00:58:03] don't answer right away, it's because
[00:58:04] I'm occupied, but I will I answer every
[00:58:07] single email and I would love to help
[00:58:11] you protect the children in your
[00:58:13] community.
[00:58:14] &gt;&gt; Awesome. Yep. And we will definitely
[00:58:16] we'll put that down
[00:58:18] &gt;&gt; in the section for the comments so
[00:58:20] people can see that. So, well, Bonnie,
[00:58:23] um
[00:58:25] any any last thing? You know, you've
[00:58:26] been sued. I mean, you've been uh
[00:58:28] removed by the police. You've been
[00:58:30] attacked by the media. You've been
[00:58:32] attacked by uh the radical uh leftists,
[00:58:36] if you will. Uh you know, you've been
[00:58:39] But yet, you keep going.
[00:58:41] Where does that source of strength come
[00:58:43] from? What does that what does that look
[00:58:45] like for you?
[00:58:45] &gt;&gt; Jesus. He's the strength of all the
[00:58:49] source of all strength. But
[00:58:52] let me share something else with your
[00:58:55] listeners. Ephesians 5:11 says, "Have
[00:58:58] nothing to do with the evil deeds of
[00:59:00] darkness, but expose them." And so when
[00:59:04] I discovered that verse, um, I just
[00:59:07] leaned into it because I felt like it
[00:59:09] was God talking to me. He often does
[00:59:11] that probably to everybody, right,
[00:59:13] through Bible verses. And I was like,
[00:59:16] "Wow, Lord, you're talking directly to
[00:59:18] me." And so I have just embraced that.
[00:59:22] My job is to open eyes. My job is not to
[00:59:25] convict the hearts of the school boards
[00:59:27] or whoever. Um but my job is to open
[00:59:31] eyes. And when I learned that, you know,
[00:59:33] when I discovered that that was what God
[00:59:35] was telling me to do, just open eyes, it
[00:59:38] made my job a lot easier. I had thought
[00:59:40] my job was to get all the books off,
[00:59:42] which means that I had to convict the
[00:59:44] hearts of the people to move. And then I
[00:59:46] learned that was not that's God's job,
[00:59:49] &gt;&gt; right?
[00:59:49] &gt;&gt; And so we have to be very specific about
[00:59:52] doing only the job that God gives us and
[00:59:55] letting God do his part, which is all
[00:59:58] the rest, right? He's is the hardest
[01:00:00] part actually. And so I will I will tell
[01:00:04] everybody
[01:00:06] schools our schools are broken. They're
[01:00:08] just broken in so many ways. And a lot
[01:00:12] of the people in the school, they think
[01:00:14] they're doing good. They think kids need
[01:00:16] this stuff, whether it's the books or
[01:00:20] abortion, drugs, and you know, there's
[01:00:22] so many other things, but
[01:00:25] they will not repair themselves. We have
[01:00:28] to stand and we have to link arms with
[01:00:31] each other, link shields, and listen, we
[01:00:35] can do great things. And we are fighting
[01:00:38] on the winning team. I go back to my
[01:00:39] analogy because God does not want this
[01:00:42] stuff accessible to children. So fight
[01:00:45] with me. We can we can do great things.
[01:00:48] &gt;&gt; Amen. And I think that's a excellent
[01:00:52] spot to close at. Bonnie, thank you so
[01:00:54] much. You're such a warrior. Uh you're a
[01:00:57] great friend and I just I appreciate you
[01:00:59] so much in all that you do and uh we're
[01:01:01] behind you. We're standing with you
[01:01:03] &gt;&gt; and uh right into battle with you.
[01:01:05] &gt;&gt; Amen.
[01:01:06] &gt;&gt; All right. Thank you.
[01:01:07] &gt;&gt; Praise God. Thank you.